Goldendoodles are incredibly popular today. Many people love Golden Retrievers and Poodles. When you combine the two breeds to get the Goldendoodle you seem to get the best of both breeds. Goldendoodles are smart, affectionate, and gentle. They usually make good family dogs. If you’re interested in getting a Goldendoodle you will soon discover that breeders can have dogs of different generations. Many people are particularly interested in the F1B Goldendoodle. Not sure what that is? We can help.
What is an F1B Goldendoodle?
Hybrid dog breeders like those breeding Goldendoodles use certain terms to identify various generations in their breeding program. The common terms used are:
- P Generation = these are the original purebred dog parents (such as the Golden Retriever and the Poodle).
- F1 Generation = the first generation produced from breeding together the purebred parents. This would be 50 percent Golden Retriever and 50 percent Poodle to produce a Goldendoodle.
- F1B Generation = this generation is produced from an F1 parent (the Goldendoodle) and a purebred parent. For the Goldendoodle, this would be a Goldendoodle F1 and a Poodle. These dogs are also called second generation Goldendoodles. These dogs are 75 percent Poodle and 25 percent Golden Retriever.
Breeders can go on producing more generations such as the F2, F2B, F3, and so on. They will use the Goldendoodles produced and breed back to a Poodle. (Breeding back to a Golden Retriever would undo the efforts to make the dogs shed less.) After several generations the Goldendoodles become more consistent and predictable in size and appearance.
Standard Poodles are often used when breeding to Golden Retrievers. This is because they are larger in size so they are a good match for the Golden Retriever. Standard Poodles also have a good temperament and often like children. This makes them a good choice when breeders are trying to produce puppies and dogs that might go to a family with kids. Some Goldendoodles can be a little smaller if they have a Miniature or Toy Poodle parent or grandparent.
Different Sizes of F1B Goldendoodles
The Golden Retriever is a medium-large dog. Males weigh between 65 and 75 pounds. Females weigh between 55 and 65 pounds. Males stand 23-24 inches tall at the withers (the shoulder blades). Females stand between 21.5 and 22.5 inches at the withers. These are ideal figures. Some Goldens are bigger.
Poodles come in several sizes. The American Kennel Club and most kennel clubs in the world recognize the Standard, Miniature, and Toy Poodle. Some breeders also produce a “petite” Poodle which is very small. The Standard Poodle is over 15 inches at the shoulder (usually around 20 inches). The Miniature Poodle is between 10 and 15 inches at the shoulder. The Toy Poodle is under 10 inches at the shoulder. That means that the Poodle parent can have a lot of influence over the size of the offspring when there is a cross with the Golden Retriever.
F1B Goldendoodles come in the following sizes:
- Petite: Under 14 inches tall; weight up to 25 pounds
- Mini (Miniature): 14-17 inches tall; weight 26-35 pounds
- Medium: 17-21 inches tall; weight 36-50 pounds
- Standard: over 21 inches; weight 51 pounds or more
Different Colors of F1B Goldendoodles
While Golden Retrievers are technically “golden,” they can be gold, cream, or virtually red in color. Poodles come in an amazing array of colors and they can pass along these color genetics to F1B Goldendoodles. Here are some of the colors that can be found in F1B Goldendoodles:
Parti, merle, phantom, chrome, and brindle color patterns are also possible in Goldendoodles.
Different Types of Common F1B Goldendoodle Coats
Goldendoodles in the F1B generation can have either long or short coats. This is because both Golden Retrievers and Poodles carry genes for long coats. However, this is a recessive gene. There is also a gene for short coats and it is dominant. This means that it’s always a genetic roll of the dice whether in individual dog will have a short or long coat.
F1B Goldendoodles can have coats that are curly, wavy, or straight.
Most Goldendoodles also have “furnishings” which include longer facial hair such as eyebrows, mustache, and beard. Dogs that have these furnishings shed less than dogs that don’t have them. This is a dominant gene. Dogs without the furnishings look more like Golden Retrievers and they will shed more.
(Breeders can have DNA tests done to identify these coat genes.)
Breeding back to a Poodle in the F1B generation usually helps the resulting offspring have more of a Poodle coat-type coat. The F1B generation is more likely to be “hypoallergenic” and shed less, like the Poodle.
Main Difference Between F1B vs Different Generations
The F1 generation in Goldendoodles can resemble either the Golden Retriever or the Poodle. They can have longer coat. They can shed, at least to some extent. If you are interested in a Goldendoodle because you have allergies, this might not be the best generation for you. This generation can be very intelligent and eager to please but they can have the energy of the Golden Retriever.
The F1B generation is produced from an F1 Goldendoodle that has been bred back to a Poodle. These dogs are much less likely to shed. By breeding back to a Poodle, all of the good qualities of the Poodle are intensified. These dogs are more likely to have the Poodle’s desirable coat that doesn’t shed much. They have a good, gentle Goldendoodle temperament. They are smart and easy to train. They are active but more relaxed than the F1 generation.
Goldendoodles in the third generation and beyond will have more and more Poodle genes. They usually look like Goldendoodles and they are (usually) non-shedding. The texture of the coat can range from fleecy to woolly; it can be wavy or curly. These generations are usually consistent.
F1B Goldendoodle Breed Information
- Temperament – F1B Goldendoodles are recognized as being very intelligent and easy to train. Both of the original parent breeds – Golden Retrievers and Poodles – are super smart and trainable. Goldendoodles are also good-natured and good-tempered. They are affectionate and they like to be around people. They typically make good family dogs and most of them like children. They are active dogs and need exercise (especially if they have a Standard Poodle parent or grandparent) but they don’t have the high energy drive of the Golden Retriever.
- Health Issues – One of the ideas with hybrid dogs is that crossbreeding will result in hybrid vigor. This is true on some levels but health also depends on the parent breeds. Any dog can develop a health problem. Golden Retrievers and Poodles share some common health issues that could show up in Goldendoodle offspring. Health issues that might show up in F1B Goldendoodles include: a skin disease called sebaceous adenitis, a heart condition called subvalvular aortic stenosis, Addison’s disease, and eye diseases such as progressive retinal atrophy, cataracts and glaucoma. Ear infections can also be a problem since these are floppy-eared dogs. It’s always a good idea to obtain your puppy or dog from a breeder that health tests their breeding dogs. These dogs are expensive so you, obviously, want to make sure that your new puppy or dog comes from parents that have been health-tested.
- Nutritional Needs – Goldendoodles and F1B Goldendoodles have the same nutritional needs as other dogs. You should feed your dog a good quality diet, preferably from a company that makes foods formulated by qualified veterinary nutritionists and follows other good practices. The FDA has expressed concerns about dog foods that are high in peas, lentils, legumes, and potatoes. They are currently researching these foods and their possible association with dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) in dogs.
- Lifespan – Expect your F1B Goldendoodle to live between 10-14 years. Some dogs may live longer.
- Grooming Needs – The grooming needs for the F1B Goldendoodle can vary depending on the texture of the coat. These second generation Goldendoodles usually have more coat than the F1 generation, though they usually shed less. Unless you groom your dog yourself (including clipping your dog), you will probably need to take him to a professional groomer every 6-8 weeks.
- How much does an F1B Goldendoodle Cost? – Expect an F1B Goldendoodle to cost between $1500 to $5000.
- Do F1B Goldendoodles Shed? – There can be some slight shedding in some dogs but F1B Goldendoodles are the Goldendoodles that are least likely to shed. They are usually the closest generation to being non-shedding.
- Are F1B Goldendoodles Trained Easily? – Yes, the F1B Goldendoodle is very smart, eager to learn and please, and usually easy to train.
- How often should an F1B Goldendoodle be groomed? – The coat texture of the F1B Goldendoodle can vary, though it’s not usually the wiry or shaggy coat that can be found in the F1 generation. You can brush it occasionally. The F1B Goldendoodle does need to be groomed by a professional groomer every 6-8 weeks. Or you can learn to groom your dog yourself if you are good with clippers.
F1B Goldendoodles are cute, sweet, gentle, and very smart. They make wonderful family dogs and devoted companions. The F1B Goldendoodle is usually the generation that is less likely to shed. These dogs are usually the best bet for someone with allergies. Of course, it’s always a good idea to meet a dog in person and see if you or your family members have any allergic reactions to a dog. Even if allergies are not a concern, the F1B Goldendoodle can be a good choice for many people.